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		<title>By: christian garibaldi</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian garibaldi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Debra
I would think that while flattering to have someone request to keep yoru book because they like it,  I would say no.  I dont think that it would be offensive to the AB or rep, or client if you explained to them politely that you would like it back and it is not theirs to keep.  I have not had that happen, but I suppose if it had, I may say that if you really like it that much, then I can make one for you and you can pay me for it.  Our books are just too costly to give out like that for free to keep.  If you are concerned that a client would hold that over your head in terms of you saying no and them in turn saying that they would not hire you,  would you really want to work with someone like that anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Debra<br />
I would think that while flattering to have someone request to keep yoru book because they like it,  I would say no.  I dont think that it would be offensive to the AB or rep, or client if you explained to them politely that you would like it back and it is not theirs to keep.  I have not had that happen, but I suppose if it had, I may say that if you really like it that much, then I can make one for you and you can pay me for it.  Our books are just too costly to give out like that for free to keep.  If you are concerned that a client would hold that over your head in terms of you saying no and them in turn saying that they would not hire you,  would you really want to work with someone like that anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Frieden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra Frieden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve sent out two books.  Each cost me $150.00 ea. Beautiful, over sized, hardcover books. I spent a year designing it, content, paper quality, images, order etc.  One made it through two sets of hands in NYC.  The other is there also.  BUT here is the problem, I could never get them back.  They all loved them so much it was hard to pry their fingers off, and now they sit on shelves or a coffee table.  It&#039;s hard to argue with &quot;Can I keep it?&quot; when you want the forthcoming representation, or work.  Keep it yes, but for how long?  So I did inquire.....and no progress.

What happened is I wound up gifting out a glorified coffee table book, with no further work from my investment.  

What happens when people want to keep your book FOREVER?  One does not want in insult some of the BEST photographer reps in the field, or Editors, etc. by demanding them back.  And yes, I tried the gentle request on several occassions also.

This is my quandary.  I put a lot of work into them, but I can&#039;t afford to offer beautiful portfolios (reduced to the status of a customized coffee table book) to the masses at $150.00 each. - that isn&#039;t their intention - the intention was to wow them for photo jobs.  

I am highly complimented, but my budget isn&#039;t big enough for a continuation of this.  Should I create a book with sleeves?  It&#039;s a palatable expense considering my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sent out two books.  Each cost me $150.00 ea. Beautiful, over sized, hardcover books. I spent a year designing it, content, paper quality, images, order etc.  One made it through two sets of hands in NYC.  The other is there also.  BUT here is the problem, I could never get them back.  They all loved them so much it was hard to pry their fingers off, and now they sit on shelves or a coffee table.  It&#8217;s hard to argue with &#8220;Can I keep it?&#8221; when you want the forthcoming representation, or work.  Keep it yes, but for how long?  So I did inquire&#8230;..and no progress.</p>
<p>What happened is I wound up gifting out a glorified coffee table book, with no further work from my investment.  </p>
<p>What happens when people want to keep your book FOREVER?  One does not want in insult some of the BEST photographer reps in the field, or Editors, etc. by demanding them back.  And yes, I tried the gentle request on several occassions also.</p>
<p>This is my quandary.  I put a lot of work into them, but I can&#8217;t afford to offer beautiful portfolios (reduced to the status of a customized coffee table book) to the masses at $150.00 each. &#8211; that isn&#8217;t their intention &#8211; the intention was to wow them for photo jobs.  </p>
<p>I am highly complimented, but my budget isn&#8217;t big enough for a continuation of this.  Should I create a book with sleeves?  It&#8217;s a palatable expense considering my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat Dalager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat Dalager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great thread. 

Alas, despite best efforts, I am not proud to say that I have had books receive minor damage over the years while under my care. Thankfully, nothing major in 25 years, but damage does happen on rare occasion. I can tell you that although careless, it&#039;s not due to maliciousness. 

Books can be handled by many people, often while multitasking in an effort to get through the day. Sometimes that means they cram down a sandwich while looking at the book, or sometimes it means that a page creases while trying to close the book. Sometimes the books are poorly crafted.

And as several contributors noted above, the point of showing the book is to get jobs, right? Therefore you will want it to be seen, even if it means the risk of damage. Better to be seen and worn, then not to be seen at all. It also means not considering the portfolio precious. Valuable, yes, precious, no. 

Which brings me back to the plastic sleeve issue. To me, plastic sleeves in a portfolio is like covering your furniture and carpets with plastic when showing your home for sale. Sure, it protects things, but it greatly detracts from the house. On the other hand, taking good-sense measures such as putting a scatter rug by the door is widely accepted. This would compare to not covering your portfolio in white silk fabric or printing on a paper that shows fingerprints.

And be patient. There may come a day when physical portfolios disappear as they become entirely digital - another topic of discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great thread. </p>
<p>Alas, despite best efforts, I am not proud to say that I have had books receive minor damage over the years while under my care. Thankfully, nothing major in 25 years, but damage does happen on rare occasion. I can tell you that although careless, it&#8217;s not due to maliciousness. </p>
<p>Books can be handled by many people, often while multitasking in an effort to get through the day. Sometimes that means they cram down a sandwich while looking at the book, or sometimes it means that a page creases while trying to close the book. Sometimes the books are poorly crafted.</p>
<p>And as several contributors noted above, the point of showing the book is to get jobs, right? Therefore you will want it to be seen, even if it means the risk of damage. Better to be seen and worn, then not to be seen at all. It also means not considering the portfolio precious. Valuable, yes, precious, no. </p>
<p>Which brings me back to the plastic sleeve issue. To me, plastic sleeves in a portfolio is like covering your furniture and carpets with plastic when showing your home for sale. Sure, it protects things, but it greatly detracts from the house. On the other hand, taking good-sense measures such as putting a scatter rug by the door is widely accepted. This would compare to not covering your portfolio in white silk fabric or printing on a paper that shows fingerprints.</p>
<p>And be patient. There may come a day when physical portfolios disappear as they become entirely digital &#8211; another topic of discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Selina Maitreya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selina Maitreya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful topic great info.When Port Authority started one of our services was to send portfolios for our clients to a minimum of 40 specifically chosen agencies, design firms, editorial pubs, etc per year per client.We had an average of 20-30 clients per year, the service ran for 5 years. Clearly I  have had a super opportunity to see how books are handled.
Clients overall do take care with books, and the more care you take building your book from inside out, the more care they will bring to the experience..I dont use the word EXPERIENCE lightly. Each client you are looking to sell to be they an art buyer, graphic designer,corporate product manager sells the EXPERIENCE  of the product /service to a  customer. You understanding this and developing  a print  portfolio that brings the EXPERIENCE of your work to them and shows them how you can contribute to creating an experience for their buyers  is huge. So as we discuss the protection aspect ,I urge you not to make decisions out of fear that your book will be damaged. Assume that along the way it will, if for no other  reason than it s in heavy use mode,(thats how you get business!) and be prepared to let go of the who did what to your stuff and just accept that you will be vigilant about replacing images, and books over time and chalk it up to the cost of doing business. 
Make your decisions on housing, parer sleeves (no sleeves please:) based on what works best in regards to creating the best experience for your buyers. Thats what your buyers are doing for their clients!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful topic great info.When Port Authority started one of our services was to send portfolios for our clients to a minimum of 40 specifically chosen agencies, design firms, editorial pubs, etc per year per client.We had an average of 20-30 clients per year, the service ran for 5 years. Clearly I  have had a super opportunity to see how books are handled.<br />
Clients overall do take care with books, and the more care you take building your book from inside out, the more care they will bring to the experience..I dont use the word EXPERIENCE lightly. Each client you are looking to sell to be they an art buyer, graphic designer,corporate product manager sells the EXPERIENCE  of the product /service to a  customer. You understanding this and developing  a print  portfolio that brings the EXPERIENCE of your work to them and shows them how you can contribute to creating an experience for their buyers  is huge. So as we discuss the protection aspect ,I urge you not to make decisions out of fear that your book will be damaged. Assume that along the way it will, if for no other  reason than it s in heavy use mode,(thats how you get business!) and be prepared to let go of the who did what to your stuff and just accept that you will be vigilant about replacing images, and books over time and chalk it up to the cost of doing business.<br />
Make your decisions on housing, parer sleeves (no sleeves please:) based on what works best in regards to creating the best experience for your buyers. Thats what your buyers are doing for their clients!</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Workshop Images: The Great Pacific Northwest &#124; LIGHTING ESSENTIALS For Photographers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Workshop Images: The Great Pacific Northwest &#124; LIGHTING ESSENTIALS For Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Web: Trashed Portfolios? &#8211; at Heather Morton&#8217;s Blog. How to Deal With Infringers: An important post at APE. A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: aaron mckenzie fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron mckenzie fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek.
That&#039;s the most comprehensive and &quot;real life&quot; description/handling of portfolio books that I&#039;ve seen.
Excellent info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek.<br />
That&#8217;s the most comprehensive and &#8220;real life&#8221; description/handling of portfolio books that I&#8217;ve seen.<br />
Excellent info.</p>
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		<title>By: dshapton</title>
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		<dc:creator>dshapton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. I don’t usually weigh in to the comments but I was just speaking with Ann Maureen about this very topic and couldn’t resist.

A bit of background. I have 14 or 16  portfolios with my Canadian reps, and a similar number for the US, split amongst people, travel / location, corporate and food books. There is no image crossover between books, they are all distinct bodies of work. When a book goes out we try to tailor it to the customer it will be visiting, generally including 2 of the 4 types of work, for example copies of the people and location portfolios for a potential ad job, or the travel and corporate books for an annual report. We are also able to send out individual books if a client has a very focused need. 

The portfolios take quite a beating. I am into my 3rd set in about 7 years. They come back in all kinds of condition, everything from greasy fingerprints and coffee rings and spills, to scratches and dents, to food scraps and crumbs crushed inside them, to pages that have been removed “for comping” and then replaced messily, to pages that are gone completely, cut or torn out for God knows what reason. It’s often the same pictures that go missing, a portrait of Scarlett Johannsen is particularly popular — I lose about one a year. 

We’ve given up trying to chase after people to figure out who was responsible; particularly in a large agency, it’s next to impossible to determine. It’s just the cost of doing business. We diligently clean, repair or replace the portfolios and prints as needed, and the overall design of the books themselves has evolved to make them as hard to mess with as possible. I use very durable, library grade bookcloth, in a variety of colors (the various types of work are color coded to make it easier for the reps to organize), which quite apart from being rugged, is also reasonably priced, and distinctive. I have a very simple binder design; no nested u-channels, rounded corners where possible (sharp crisp corners quickly get dog-eared and bent), and no spiral bindings, just three screw posts spaced so we can use a standard three hole punch for the pages. I use the most economical paper I can; there are a lot of prints in all those books, and if I was using something that cost me two or three or four bucks a sheet they would cost MUCH more than they already do. And yes, I still use plastic sleeves; extremely clear, extremely hardy polyester sleeves from Brewer-Cantelmo in New York. They were rather expensive but are supposedly archival and “museum quality”, whatever that means; all I know is that they stand up to pretty much anything short of being keyed (fingernails? no problem). In fact, much of the original batch from years ago are still in use, having outlasted the original portfolios themselves. 

Their main drawback is that they are quite reflective, but I’ve been able to balance that a bit by using matte paper, the overall effect is more or less that of glossy prints. I would love to have beautiful, naked prints and nothing else but they just wouldn’t stand up to the wear and tear. In fact I know several photographers who put together gorgeous prints-without-sleeves type books only to switch back after a few months when the prints started getting dirty and creased and torn. Have you ever seen the paint around a lightswitch, where dozens of fingers have touched the wall? Or the greasy head shaped stain under the posters next to the doors in a subway car? That’s what starts to happen to the paper. Sad but true. 

The books themselves go into padded bags with label pouches integrated into the top covers. The covers themselves snap shut quickly and easily with simple, bulletproof magnetic fasteners (no moving parts); the bags can be machine-washed if necessary. The whole package, complete with 2 books and a handful of promos, is sized to fit perfectly into a large FedEx box, and was designed from the outset to do so. I guess the point I’m trying to make with all this is that I agree with Dana; your portfolio is a tool, and should be looked at as much in that regard as any other. Having a jewel-like work of art as your portfolio calling card is fine and good, but if you spent so much on it that you can only afford one, and having it lost or damaged would set your career and finances back a year, then you’re taking the wrong approach. I think it’s as important to be practical when it comes to designing your book; nobody else will ever take as good care of it as you do, it’s just a fact of life. And last but not least, it’s true, goo gone is a godsend. Still haven’t found anything that will clean off Sharpie ink, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. I don’t usually weigh in to the comments but I was just speaking with Ann Maureen about this very topic and couldn’t resist.</p>
<p>A bit of background. I have 14 or 16  portfolios with my Canadian reps, and a similar number for the US, split amongst people, travel / location, corporate and food books. There is no image crossover between books, they are all distinct bodies of work. When a book goes out we try to tailor it to the customer it will be visiting, generally including 2 of the 4 types of work, for example copies of the people and location portfolios for a potential ad job, or the travel and corporate books for an annual report. We are also able to send out individual books if a client has a very focused need. </p>
<p>The portfolios take quite a beating. I am into my 3rd set in about 7 years. They come back in all kinds of condition, everything from greasy fingerprints and coffee rings and spills, to scratches and dents, to food scraps and crumbs crushed inside them, to pages that have been removed “for comping” and then replaced messily, to pages that are gone completely, cut or torn out for God knows what reason. It’s often the same pictures that go missing, a portrait of Scarlett Johannsen is particularly popular — I lose about one a year. </p>
<p>We’ve given up trying to chase after people to figure out who was responsible; particularly in a large agency, it’s next to impossible to determine. It’s just the cost of doing business. We diligently clean, repair or replace the portfolios and prints as needed, and the overall design of the books themselves has evolved to make them as hard to mess with as possible. I use very durable, library grade bookcloth, in a variety of colors (the various types of work are color coded to make it easier for the reps to organize), which quite apart from being rugged, is also reasonably priced, and distinctive. I have a very simple binder design; no nested u-channels, rounded corners where possible (sharp crisp corners quickly get dog-eared and bent), and no spiral bindings, just three screw posts spaced so we can use a standard three hole punch for the pages. I use the most economical paper I can; there are a lot of prints in all those books, and if I was using something that cost me two or three or four bucks a sheet they would cost MUCH more than they already do. And yes, I still use plastic sleeves; extremely clear, extremely hardy polyester sleeves from Brewer-Cantelmo in New York. They were rather expensive but are supposedly archival and “museum quality”, whatever that means; all I know is that they stand up to pretty much anything short of being keyed (fingernails? no problem). In fact, much of the original batch from years ago are still in use, having outlasted the original portfolios themselves. </p>
<p>Their main drawback is that they are quite reflective, but I’ve been able to balance that a bit by using matte paper, the overall effect is more or less that of glossy prints. I would love to have beautiful, naked prints and nothing else but they just wouldn’t stand up to the wear and tear. In fact I know several photographers who put together gorgeous prints-without-sleeves type books only to switch back after a few months when the prints started getting dirty and creased and torn. Have you ever seen the paint around a lightswitch, where dozens of fingers have touched the wall? Or the greasy head shaped stain under the posters next to the doors in a subway car? That’s what starts to happen to the paper. Sad but true. </p>
<p>The books themselves go into padded bags with label pouches integrated into the top covers. The covers themselves snap shut quickly and easily with simple, bulletproof magnetic fasteners (no moving parts); the bags can be machine-washed if necessary. The whole package, complete with 2 books and a handful of promos, is sized to fit perfectly into a large FedEx box, and was designed from the outset to do so. I guess the point I’m trying to make with all this is that I agree with Dana; your portfolio is a tool, and should be looked at as much in that regard as any other. Having a jewel-like work of art as your portfolio calling card is fine and good, but if you spent so much on it that you can only afford one, and having it lost or damaged would set your career and finances back a year, then you’re taking the wrong approach. I think it’s as important to be practical when it comes to designing your book; nobody else will ever take as good care of it as you do, it’s just a fact of life. And last but not least, it’s true, goo gone is a godsend. Still haven’t found anything that will clean off Sharpie ink, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.heathermorton.ca/blog/?p=5029&#038;cpage=1#comment-29529</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To remove goo from most labels i now use swix citrus solvent (used to remove wax off skis and snowboards) and it smells great to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To remove goo from most labels i now use swix citrus solvent (used to remove wax off skis and snowboards) and it smells great to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: eric f.</title>
		<link>http://www.heathermorton.ca/blog/?p=5029&#038;cpage=1#comment-29527</link>
		<dc:creator>eric f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ana, regarding those horrible return labels, use Goo Gone. the 12 oz spray gel will last for years.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Dutile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Dutile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion on a less than savory topic. I think unfortunately we live in a world where accidents and misuse just sometimes happen and have to hope the AB/PE is respectful of the work. I think most are. Wear and tear happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion on a less than savory topic. I think unfortunately we live in a world where accidents and misuse just sometimes happen and have to hope the AB/PE is respectful of the work. I think most are. Wear and tear happens.</p>
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